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		<title>DÃ©bat sur Facebook ce vendredi Ã  TÃ©lÃ©-QuÃ©bec</title>
		<link>http://montrealsocialmedia.com/blog/2007/11/29/debat-sur-facebook-ce-vendredi-a-tele-quebec/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nicolask7</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via un message envoyÃ© par Philippe Schnobb aux membres de son groupe Facebook Sur le Web, j&#8217;ai appris que l&#8217;Ã©mission de Marie-France Bazzo, Il va y avoir du sport, prÃ©senterait ce vendredi un dÃ©bat sur la thÃ©matique de Facebook. Philippe nous demandant notre avis sur la question de l&#8217;utilitÃ© de FB, j&#8217;en profitai alors pour [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via un message envoyÃ© par Philippe Schnobb aux membres de son <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2447837159" title="groupe sur le web facebook" target="_blank">groupe Facebook</a> <a href="http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/surleweb/" title="Sur le web" target="_blank">Sur le Web</a>, j&#8217;ai appris que l&#8217;Ã©mission de Marie-France Bazzo,<a href="http://ilvayavoirdusport.telequebec.tv/index.html" title="Ã©mission tÃ©lÃ©" target="_blank"> Il va y avoir du sport</a>, prÃ©senterait ce vendredi un <a href="http://ilvayavoirdusport.telequebec.tv/html_e01/C_debate_02.html" title="dÃ©bat Facebook TÃ©lÃ©-QuÃ©bec" target="_blank">dÃ©bat sur la thÃ©matique de Facebook</a>. Philippe nous demandant notre avis sur la question de l&#8217;utilitÃ© de FB, j&#8217;en profitai alors pour lui faire part de mon opinion sur le sujet&#8230;</p>
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<p>Bonjour Philippe,</p>
<p>voici mon opinion en rÃ©ponse Ã  la question que tu nous poses, Ã  savoir: quelle est l&#8217;utilitÃ© de Facebook.<br />
Ã€ mon avis, la plus grande utilitÃ© de FB (ou ce que le rÃ©seau apportera Ã  la collectivitÃ©) ne doit pas Ãªtre Ã©valuÃ© d&#8217;un point de vue utilitariste. De fait, FB n&#8217;apporte rien d&#8217;autres qui n&#8217;existait pas auparavant. Avant FB, les internautes Ã©changeaient photos sur Flickr, planifiaient leurs rencontres sur meetup.com et faisaient du rÃ©seautage grÃ¢ce Ã  LinkedIn.</p>
<p>Facebook, en crÃ©ant une plate-forme gÃ©nÃ©rale, facile d&#8217;accÃ¨s et conviviale, se trouve Ã  avoir propulser une rÃ©alitÃ© qui demeurait jadis l&#8217;apanage d&#8217;une sous-culture branchÃ©e Ã  un phÃ©nomÃ¨ne de masse. Ainsi, en rendant le phÃ©nomÃ¨ne des rÃ©seaux sociaux grand-public, FB devient par consÃ©quent porte-Ã©tandard de tous les enjeux qui sont reliÃ©s au web 2.0. Facebook devient alors utile car il agit comme catalyseur d&#8217;interrogation auprÃ¨s des dÃ©cideurs qui devront Ã©ventuellement lÃ©figÃ©rer et se questionner sur de nombreuses problÃ©matiques qu&#8217;amÃ¨ne l&#8217;avÃ¨nement de la culture web 2.0 :</p>
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<li>qui est ou sera propriÃ©taire du contenu gÃ©nÃ©rÃ© par les utilisateurs</li>
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<li>qui doit lÃ©gifÃ©rer ce mÃªme contenu</li>
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<li>qui devient responsable de notre identitÃ© virtuel</li>
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<li>quel contenu devra demeurer privÃ© ou public</li>
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<p>Finalement, c&#8217;est grÃ¢ce Ã  Facebook que les gens au pouvoir pourront prendre des dÃ©cisions plus Ã©clairÃ©es sur ces problÃ©matiques, car ils auront auparavant Ã©tÃ© sensibilisÃ© (dans le meilleur des cas, ils auront dÃ©jÃ  utilisÃ©) la plate-forme qu&#8217;est FB.<br />
Note sur la question du dÃ©bat: Pour ou contre Facebook ? FB est une rÃ©alitÃ©, tel que le froid en dÃ©cembre, Ã©videmment nous ne pouvons nier son existence ni est contre le phÃ©nomÃ¨ne&#8230; c&#8217;Ã©tait mon avis</p>
<p>au plaisir de te regarder Ã  la tÃ©lÃ©vision</p>
<p>Nicolas<br />
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		<title>Why an internet marketer should care about Facebook ?</title>
		<link>http://montrealsocialmedia.com/blog/2007/11/08/why-an-internet-marketer-should-care-about-facebook/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nicolask7</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hereâ€™s a recap of yesterdayâ€™s Montreal Facebook Camp first session hosted by Thane Calder (CloudRaker). According to Olivier Soussy (Radio-Canada), the fact is that Facebook exists and that the network reaches thousands of people, so marketers should go where there is an audience and thatâ€™s it. Vlad Stesin (Fjord) added that Facebook is interesting because [...]]]></description>
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<p><span>Hereâ€™s a recap of yesterdayâ€™s <strong>Montreal</strong> <strong>Facebook Camp</strong> first session hosted by Thane Calder (<a title="CloudRaker" target="_blank" href="http://www.cloudraker.com/">CloudRaker</a>). According to <a title="Olivier Soussy" target="_blank" href="http://www.lienmultimedia.com/exclusif/00-01/00-01-20-01.html">Olivier Soussy</a> (<a title="SRC" target="_blank" href="http://www.radio-canada.ca/">Radio-Canada</a>), the fact is that Facebook exists and that the network reaches thousands of people, so marketers should go where there is an audience and thatâ€™s it. <a title="Vlad Stesin" target="_blank" href="http://shiftmarket.com/">Vlad Stesin</a> (<a title="Fjord" target="_blank" href="http://www.fjordinteractif.com/">Fjord</a>) added that Facebook is interesting because it does replicate the social interaction that we have offline. A fascinating point of view came from <a title="JJ StrÃ©liski" target="_blank" href="http://www.telequebec.tv/sites/idees/chasseurs_idees_1999/archives/19991220/invite04.html">Jean-Jacques StrÃ©liski</a> (<a title="Publicis" target="_blank" href="http://www.publicis.ca/">Publicis</a><a title="Publicis" target="_blank" href="http://www.publicis.ca/">)</a> who is impressed by the impact of Facebook but doesnâ€™t seems convinced for the moment on what Facebook could really bring in terms of an interesting way to advertise. </span>â€˜â€™Facebook a encore des devoirs Ã  faireâ€™â€™ de dire StrÃ©liski, â€˜â€™je ne suis pas encore sÃ©duit par la sirÃ¨ne, fascinÃ©, mais pas encore convaincu, jâ€™aime la sincÃ©ritÃ©, je ne le sais pasâ€¦, on a la conviction quâ€™il se passe quelquechose, je veux vivre lâ€™histoire, pas la manquer, y se passe quelquechose, mais on ne sait pas quoi ?â€™â€™</p>
<p><span>Next question was about what are you doing as marketers for the moment on Facebook ? Most of the four panellists agreed that for the moment, marketers are watching it, looking at Facebook as a way to experiment. Vlad came with the idea that we should think about Facebook more like a media, â€˜â€™we should come with an application, with a different mindset, then it will force us to respect peopleâ€™â€™. </span>Olivier Soussy for Radio-Canada, sees it on two points of view: first, â€˜â€™on constate une migration de notre audience vers des sites ou le contenu est gÃ©nÃ©rer par les utilisateursâ€™â€™, secondly â€˜â€™dâ€™un point de vue commercial, on constate une pression Ã  la baisse sur <a title="CPM" target="_blank" href="http://blog.jeromeparadis.com/archive/2007/11/06/Facebook-launches-Facebook-Ads.aspx">CPM</a>, il y a tellement dâ€™inventaires de qualitÃ© sur le net, on est dans un marchÃ© de vendeurs de pub maintenant. Facebook devient un appel dâ€™air au niveau publicitaire, il ne faut pas se tromper, il faut attendre, les taux de clics sont dÃ©sastreux, le branding nâ€™est pas possible, les gens sont intÃ©ressÃ©s par eux-mÃªmes sur FB (photos, amis, applications). <span>â€˜â€™ According to Olivier Soussy, there is an urgency to wait.</span></p>
<p><span>Next question was about targeting marketing. Vlad tells us that it is going to take a lot of tools and that is going to be hard to manage targeting for mass marketing. Again, everyone agrees on the fact that the quality and the quantity of the data is incredible but we donâ€™t know how to use it, for the moment. So comes the difficulty to sell Facebook as advertising to our customers. Olivier Soussy adding that whatever the place, it just takes a good ad, itâ€™s not about creation or design, itâ€™s all about the right message sent to the right people.</span></p>
<p><span>As for the applications, <a title="Andrea Strairs" target="_blank" href="void(0);">Andrea Stairs</a> (<a title="ebay" target="_blank" href="http://montrealsocialmedia.com/www.ebay.com">e-bay</a>) educated us about <a title="ebay on Facebook" target="_blank" href="http://mashable.com/2007/08/21/ebay-facebook-app/">few applications that e-bay developed on FB</a>, one is to show our friends what we have brought through e-bay. Someone from the audience asked if Radio-Canada, as the New York Times did, will come up with an application in the future. Answer is probably not, considering that SRC is a â€˜â€™grosse machineâ€™â€™ and that is hard to change things into large corporations. Jean-Jacques StrÃ©liski also thinks that it is difficult with FB for the agencys because their revenue models are not made to advertise on Facebook. It is more the customers who want to be on Facebook.</span></p>
<p>In the end, the panel left us with many questions (more than answers) but since everything on Facebook is new and considering that <a title="jerome's tot$ on facebook" target="_blank" href="http://blog.jeromeparadis.com/archive/2007/11/06/Facebook-launches-Facebook-Ads.aspx">the company has changed few days a go it ways of advertising</a>, the future will probably give us much more answers.</p>
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